“Star Trek: Starfleet Academy” will end with its upcoming second season, Variety has learned exclusively.

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    If someone had told teenage me that there would be star trek and star wars that not only would I never see but never care to see. heck sci fi in general. its wild.

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    I am genuinely happy to hear that Alex Kurtzman is leaving the Star Trek franchise, fuck that guy.

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      That’s not in the announcements

      Variety confirmed that CBS Studios and Kurtzman are continuing to be in negotiations for a renewed partnership.

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          It depends on whether the intent is to integrate the movies and television.

          No one involved with the new movies has proven their ability to deliver on Star Trek, whatever their other credentials.

          It would be a major risk to give any untested production company and EP the kind of multiyear contract needed to run the franchise.

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    I have watched all of trek except TOS (just a few famous episodes only).

    I just couldn’t get into this show and that’s okay, I don’t need to love every show. Sad to see less Trek as there should be Trek for every type of audience but if they are cancelling then I’m guessing the show didn’t find its mark with people.

    I don’t know how to appeal to younger audiences, there are people smarter than me to figure that out but I hope to have a trek for me again someday.

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    Does that mean we’re not even going to get a nice ending for season 2?

    Hopefully they had enough of a sense it was coming to wrap things up.

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      10 hours ago

      they did allow disco to shoot additional scenes to make the season finale a series finale. I hope they allow SFA to do the same

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      14 hours ago

      Unfortunately, they did a cliffhanger.

      Now you have to wonder if they can untangle it into one coherent finale episode, and if Paramount will even give them the approval to untangle it in the first place.

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          I’m always concerned that having an unresolved cliffhanger has the opposite impact.

          It discourages new viewers from trying a show and undermines the case for a movie.

          A Firefly to Serendipity outcome is vanishingly rare.

          And unlike Farscape, the production company partner can’t get the IP back and make a limited series or streaming movie to resolve it.

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            That’s good point. I enjoyed the Discovery finale well enough but I also can’t deny it definitely felt rushed.

            I can’t say for sure if I’d prefer a rushed conclusion over a well-considered writing that gets cut short!

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    ”…the show failed to find its significant audience.”

    Put a show on a streamer that is targeting a completely different audience, and let the entitled vocal fans run wild with unchecked brigading, and then be surprised by low “crowdsourced” ratings.

    Sigh.

    This is depressing, if accurate, in that it may also be a signal that the new owner is looking for a new production company to manage the franchise just when things had finally and consistently stabilized with Secret Hideout.

    I’m not hopeful for an SNW continuation in a Year One show, or Tawny’s project either.

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      It does seem like Paramount+ has a problem with drawing younger people - stuff aimed at younger demographics doesn’t seem to last long (with the exception of Spongebob). I always thought SFA’s success was a bit of a long shot for that reason.

      And ironically, merging with HBO Max might actually help with that, but it won’t come soon enough.

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        Prodigy was amazing though.
        Did a single person hear about it before the cancellation notice? Well, no. But it’s still somehow our fault that it was cancelled, and not their fault for utterly failing to promote it in any way.

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        Paramount+ is the new ‘Friday night time slot.’ If they actually gave a shit about having the show being successful, they would’ve syndicated it to a streaming service people actually use.

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      This is depressing, if accurate, in that it may also be a signal that the new owner is looking for a new production company to manage the franchise just when things had finally and consistently stabilized with Secret Hideout.

      I’m sure they are, and suspect that this would be the trajectory regardless of Academy’s viewership. The new ownership will be looking to develop a new, more fascism-friendly flavour of Star Trek in the next few years. Tremendous shame, but not a surprise.

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        It seems that my initial reaction was overly hasty and upset.

        As I just replied to another post, towards the end of the article, Variety says, citing an unnamed source:

        According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Kurtzman and CBS Studios are currently in talks for a new deal that will keep him in the CBS fold. In addition to his work on “Star Trek,” he has produced shows like the “Hawaii Five-O” reboot, “Scorpion,” and “Salvation.”

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    Oh man this is really sad. I liked SFA way more than I thought I would. The cast was top notch, and they had some good stories. Genuinely sad to see this one go.

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    Well, I’ll be damned. The hate campaigners seem to have won, despite solid signs that the show was actually doing quite well with the target group — internationally, if less so in the US?

    This is very sad news, the show seemed to go from strength to strength in its first season.

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    23 hours ago

    Random reactions:

    • Disappointed but not surprised.
    • Even though the article leaves this an open question, I will be surprised if Kurtzman returns after this.
    • At least they didn’t memory hole S2 as a tax write off.
    • I wonder if they will attempt (and be allowed to attempt) to rework the S2 ‘cliffhanger-ish/lite’ ending into something else, or if it’s just impractical to rework a “part 1 of 2” episode into a 1 episode contained story.
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      The odd thing is that Variety seems to be saying that, according to the same unnamed inside source, negotiations are still underway for Kurtzman and Secret Hideout to continue production for CBS Studios (which I failed to notice on my initial read of the piece).

      According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Kurtzman and CBS Studios are currently in talks for a new deal that will keep him in the CBS fold. In addition to his work on “Star Trek,” he has produced shows like the “Hawaii Five-O” reboot, “Scorpion,” and “Salvation.”

      If so, I’m wondering if someone leaked the specific detail of the termination of Starfleet Academy with the hope of a fan campaign to save it…

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    Well, damn.

    There’s inevitably (and understandably) going to be a lot of speculation about what, exactly, led to this decision, but…in the absence of any further information, I’m just going to be bummed about it.

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      Here’s the first (big FWIW/grain of salt/etc) thing on the decision that’s I’ve seen (besides the TrekMovie article note that ‘it’s no secret that the show didn’t Nielsen chart’). From author Mike Chen on Bluesky.

      From the few insiders I know, viewership was actually above expectations and this was more of a “future of the franchise” corporate decision. I’m expecting Trek to be in flux as there are SO MANY variables. Everything from tech stocks to Iran to midterms is impacting Paramount.

      Leaving the link to his post here for reference but he has his posts hidden unless you’re logged into Bluesky.

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          Here’s another one to ponder.

          I commented on social media that even though the press reports say the question is open, his “farewell” letter in the reports read to me like someone on the way out talking to his successor. And Brian Tatosky (one of the VFX team) replied:

          Yes, SFA being cancelled is part of ending his tenure of Trek once we finish the work we have.

          So it sure seems like the end of the road.

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      A more measured take VS than I can manage at present.

      My partner commented “It wouldn’t take much with the Ellisons” when I said it was reportedly canceled but, I have been hoping that there just might be more sophistication in the analysis of the show’s potential in a bigger, broader streamer.

      My own thoughts go to women like my mother-in-law now in her 90s, or the superfan Bjo Trimble, who watched and supported Star Trek and other science fiction media, decade after decade, without seeing many women like themselves in principle roles.

      They weren’t watching because of their husbands or kids, they were enjoying science fiction for themselves and their views, and all the related licensed media and merchandise they bought produced exactly the same advertising and other revenue.

      Yet, entitled middle aged guys — who aren’t even in the key youth demographic anymore — want to define the franchise and seem to be being listened to.

      Older person that I am, I recall the boys in the neighborhood would take their toys and wouldn’t join imaginative play unless they got to be the hero. I guess they never changed.

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        Bjo Trimble

        One of the organizers of the letter-writing campaign that saved TOS for a third season, for folks who don’t know.

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          There’s a new change.org petition for a 3rd season of Starfleet Academy that broke 500 signatures in the first hour.

          No idea if the executives would pay attention but it’s a way to counter the narrative of the negative brigading the show has been dogged by.