Value Subtracted
Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?
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81·3 days agoStar Trek VI is generally considered one of the “good ones”.
Of course, the secret is, they’re all the good ones.
Yes, even that one.
I would probably go with “whatever was the most recent release,” so West is canonical, but his identity as the would-be assassin is not?
Which I prefer, to be honest - having the Klingon be a Klingon helps to reinforce this as a cross-faction conspiracy.
14·4 days ago30 seconds later
What do you mean, you’ve seen this? It’s brand new…
The SNW Gorn literally pulled the classic sitcom “stay on your side of the line” routine - basically the same motivation as “Arena”.
I know just the anomaly.
I prefer the goofy-badass-Gorn over the scary-quick-incubatin’-Gorn.
They’re iconic for a reason.
The recon is to the timeline and initial encounter with the species
Fair enough - I’ll backtrack slightly and say that if there’s a retcon, that’s where it is, rather than in the Gorn’s behaviour.
But there is a bit of wiggle room in “Arena”, I think. Kirk certainly seems unfamiliar with the Gorn, but they never really say it’s the first contact, and Spock doesn’t really say anything one way or the other (a very Spock-like thing to do in any situation).
They definitely have massaged that canon, but I don’t think they’ve really contradicted it.
It’s really none of our business…but are they?
“What I loved about the Gorn was it was an opportunity to retcon something into a real monster. What we do in Star Trek—and you’ll see we’ll even do it with the Gorn—is we start by seeing the other and often we end by engaging our empathy and understanding common ground. And that’s great, and it doesn’t mean that there isn’t real evil in the world. And so what we wanted to do with the Gorn was to give you a monster, and a monster that at least at first, seemed irredeemable.”
I find this statement a little aggravating, because in my opinion they really haven’t retconned the Gorn. In “Arena”, they slaughtered the entire Cestus colony, and the Gorn captain is utterly merciless.
“Arena” is about mercy, but the Gorn didn’t really earn it in the episode, which was really kind of the point.
Jump 900 years into the past and do a period costume drama.
I always figured TAS was the final two years of the five-year mission…
I think Goldsman’s actual statement is pretty vague - he could easily mean a spinoff with the non-TOS cast. Just redress the sets and you’re off to the races.
He could also mean a movie, or…some third thing.
And in any case, he’s moving on with his career.
It’s cool that they’re excited about possibilities, but I remain very skeptical that there’s any actual traction there.
Heck, it was pretty much Goldsman’s pitch:
In the first pitch document that we sent to the network… we opened with a question asking, “What if we just did Star Trek?” And they said, “Okay.” Every day in the writers’ room, we try to imagine how would Gene Roddenberry and his team make The Original Series if they were doing it today?
I just clued in that you’re visiting from a Mastodon server. In that case, it’s unfortunately two clicks - first the startrek.website link, then the Gizmodo link that goes to the actual article.
Federation is an imperfect beast sometimes.
If you’re interested in the article, you could try, y’know, reading it.Edit: I was being a bit of a dumb-dumb.
Like the article says, the early seasons are often given short shrift due to what comes later, but there’s some great stuff in there.
I didn’t say that.