Love this. I don’t agree with the sentiment that Trek is being overdone - I’d rather have a slate of options and sit through the “bad” than have to wait years to get anything close to good.
Like, I enjoyed parts of Picard, but on the whole, it didn’t work out (maybe given the serial nature of each season, or cramming pretty ambitious ideas into 10 episodes each season). But I’ll take that any day over having to wait a week at a time for a “filler” episode.
Still hoping for a Klingon focused show… would love anything where a federation vessel isn’t the primary setting!
I totally agree that I love the variety of options! But I would be very happy if one of the options was that we get filler/bottle episodes for a few weeks per season, but every season is 26 episodes long. They could just spread the budget for 10 episodes across all 26, and make the VFX less… shiny.
(Of course, I don’t actually want actors to be worked to the bone like they were in the 90s…)
Please, no.
LD was great, it worked well as a genuine love letter to the franchise let’s leave it at that. We don’t need a comedy, or a romance, or a drama, thriller, sitcom, etc. spin-off of Star Trek.
They’re going to Star Wars-ise Star Trek and kill the franchise the same as Disney is by over-doing it (and Marvel) into the ground.
They’ve cancelled Discovery, Prodigy, Picard, Lower Decks, and you’re worried they’re going to over-do it? If they do it much less, there wont be any Trek left!
Yes, the fact that they had 4 shows to cancel at once is a sign they are over-doing it .
I’m fine with waiting years before we get another Trek, it’s nothing new.
Sure, I’d understand your sentiment more when all those shows were being announced, rather than after they’ve all been canned. Right now we’re looking at ten episodes plus the Section 31 special in the coming year, which doesn’t seem like over doing it to me. But I was raised on seasons of twenty-plus episodes, so maybe I’m spoiled.
They’ve cancelled Discovery, Prodigy, Picard, Lower Decks
Was Prodigy canceled again after it was revived for a second season? Or is there still a chance for a third season?
Huh, I thought I’d heard Netflix cancelled it, but according to everything I see on Google they just haven’t announced anything one way or the other. It’s been long enough that I wouldn’t hold my breath, though.
Every reddit-brained geek said the same thing about LD and then ended up liking it so I’m glad Paramount isn’t listening to the fearful fans.
Risk is our business!
I have to admit I had very low hopes for Lower Decks after that first teaser featuring a drunk Mariner being reckless with a bat’leth. It looked like it was going to be just another “adult cartoon” cash-in like the dozens on Netflix. Very happy that my initial impression was totally wrong.
Lower Decks was an effective Star Trek show as well as an effective comedy. While I also wouldn’t trust this idea with just anyone, as long as there are people working on it who understand why Star Trek is important and how the themes are more important than being dismissive, I welcome another comfy optimistic comedy about a better world.
Totally agree.
I’ll watch whatever Tawny Newsome does next. Lower Decks earned a ton of goodwill. It was a breath of fresh air.
Star Trek always had some levity. And all the other new Trek has always felt too serious - they’ve been constantly saving the Federation/humanity/Galaxy/universe. If they need to make a funny show in order to tell a funny story, then fine. Go for it.
You mean like SNW which is peppered with regular jokes about the captain’s appearance, especially hair? Especially the musical episode where the Klingons aggressively sing and dance “why you only call me / when you got your problems”. Took that one pretty far.
Didn’t The Orville already cover this anyway? Without screwing with an existing franchise for jokes.
The Orville was never funny, and it got much better when it stopped trying to be. Star Trek has a pretty good track record with humour. Especially where Newsome is concerned.
I noped out of that show after the episode where the entire engineering crew spends an hour trying to access the ancient secret data vault that is…some girls iPhone. Trek definitely has better humor as well as poignant and serious topics.
I think The Orville improves over time - I initially hated both Isaac and Gordon, but they do good things with them later.
We don’t need a comedy, or a romance, or a drama, thriller, sitcom, etc. spin-off of Star Trek.
Am I remembering this correctly or is this from the Mandela universe I’m originally from…after the reboot of Battlestar Galactica finished, they made a prequel to it which was a soap opera/personal drama set on Capricus or whatever the planet was called? For some reason?
Why am I also reminded of the Geico cave man commercials that some idiot also made a TV show about?
The Starwarsification of the franchise began with the reboot films. These new shows aren’t contributing to that, imo. If anything, the Star Wars shows are Startrekifying their cinematic universe, which isn’t such a terrible thing…
It began with Generations, really. The point that we don’t need more sloppy, shitty Star Trek content still stands.
We don’t need a comedy, or a romance, or a drama, thriller, sitcom, etc. spin-off of Star Trek.
That is exactly what I want to see. The Star Trek universe is one filled with such hope, and I want to see that in a day to day capacity.
I think Lower Decks handled it perfectly and if the same crew can produce a live action show in a slightly different scenario then I’m in.
Besides one show isn’t going to kill Star Trek. Star Trek has some real stinkers out there (and a new one is coming in January).
i donno if they could do it without making it season 1 discovery levels of pettiness.
Bring back LDs damnit
I want to see more of the Neo-transcendentalists and their society. I love the bisexual swinger vibes, but I also understand why Andy Billups bugged out and joined starfleet.
Sometimes you just want to clean a plasma coil without all the drama.
Don’t a ton of the episodes deal with life outside the federation, boldly go where no (hu)man has gone before and all that? Hell, DS9 took place on a space station outside the federation…
Or do they mean outside Starfleet? I wouldn’t mind that show, it’d be nice to see the daily lives of people in or out of the Federation who aren’t part of a pseudo-military style organization.
Also… Risa was part of the Federation. Unless that was retconned with nu-trek or something…
Don’t a ton of the episodes deal with life outside the federation, boldly go where no (hu)man has gone before and all that? Hell, DS9 took place on a space station outside the federation…
I think it’s a stretch to say that they do. The primary characters are nearly always Starfleet/Federation characters, and the events of the episodes are generally seen through their eyes, even if they are technically outside the Federation. The main exception would be the DS9 Ferengi episodes, but there’s really only a handful of those.
Risa was part of the Federation. Unless that was retconned with nu-trek or something…
The only reason Risa came up in the article is because the pitch of the new show is that it’s set on a resort planet, and people unfortunately lack imagination and assumed that meant Risa, even though the pitch also said it was set outside the Federation.
This interview confirms that the setting is not, and has never been, Risa.
We’ll see how it all pans out. I feel somehow skeptical that the Federation perspective won’t worm its way in there somewhere.
star trek {ship name} exploring the galaxy as primary mission plz and thank u
Is that not Strange New Worlds?
it’s so close. but we know at the heart of it it’s the “wtf happened to pike?” show
Or TOS… TNG… Voyager… Enterprise…
For some reason this quote popped into my head:
Q: The Jean-Luc Picard you wanted to be […] learned to play it safe. And he never, ever got noticed by anyone.
I think a Star Trek series without Star Fleet being the main focus would be amazing
I’ve wanted an Outside the Federation show for a while. I hope they bring back Cassidy Yates. More Maquis would also be sick
As it’s Tawny Newsome, I’m giving it a chance.
My dream trek show, though, would be a semi-anthology that explores different crews (mostly non-Federation, but maybe one), sort of like if LD:”Wej Duj” was a series. Each crew would have a self-contained 50 minute plot, and then you would have them meet up for a finale (hopefully in two parts) with a meetup of each crew.
The one episode idea I have would be called something like “Cetacean Ops”, featuring a Starfleet vessel commanded and mostly staffed by aquatic (and some amphibious) life forms, except for main engineering. In addition to exploring what the heck whales do in the Federation, we could explore the dynamics of how non-aquatic and aquatic crew interact and try to prevent loneliness.
Finally! I’m willing to bet it’s gonna take place on a cafe or gumbo shop.
So a shitty version of Orville? No thanks.
