Piper’s #2 and 1/2 of her #1

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Cake day: June 21st, 2023

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  • I can understand that too knowing the context. I personallay still think that article did was thought provoking enough to Garner discussion in the comments, which is half the point of a site like this.

    But i agree, it’s why I made the post! This is something to be discussed as a community as we all escape reddit. This is the time to be ironing these things out. We need these discussions and rules to prevent a mod from feeling they need to ban someone for “drama”. Have clear defined rules agreed soon by the community and that problem is solved. Banning people trying to talk about getting a more clear ruleset in place is just asinine. Soon it’s only going to be that mod posting and nobody commenting.

    I also get things may have been one way on Reddit, but that also doesn’t mean it automatically applies here. Even if it did it’s not hard to copy and paste rules from reddit to here.

    Also, did I see in the modlog they ( @[email protected] is lurking and should really learn this site is way more transparent than reddit) banned you too?

    EDIT: Just checked the modlog. They banned you for making this post I’m replying to on a different instance. How anyone could not see that as a red flag of petty retributive mod abuse then I don’t know what is. For what it’s worth, I banned them from my (much smaller but hopefully gonna pic up some Trekkies soon) instance so they’ll never know what’s being missed 😜 of course I’d happily reverse it if they cool off and explain their actions.


  • I get that the admin has control. And yes, i love that we can just go off to another server and have the same discussion. However there is something to be said about having a centralized server for niche discussion like star trek. That’s what it seems they’re trying to accomplish anyway. There’s no rules or list of banned sites which i could totally understand. However, this comes entirely across as a petty mod not happy about something a site said once. The only purpose being so heavy handed with moderation like that is only going to splinter what was looking to be one of the most unified communities on the fediverse. It’s anthitical to what the instance is trying to accomplish, becoming a centralized spot for star trek related communities on Lemmy.







  • Wow you are tiresome. I guess this shows Lemmy can be a good reddit alternative though with some internet troll scolding others for not liking trek for the same exact reasons as them. Geeze, let’s start from the top.

    You assume some executive at Paramount cares about that? Star Trek is a brand, and how well it performs as a whole is what’s important with regards to new Trek getting greenlit.

    Yes. Star trek is one of the highest grossing media franchises in the history of the world being more profitable than the likes of Spiderman, Jurassic Park, and Mario. I know media executives aren’t the smartest people in the world, but I’d say that’s a fairly healthy franchise and is a cash cow if they appeal to the right audience. No exec is going to think like you and be dumb enough to not continue development on the franchise because some niche show targets at kids didint appeal to all Trekkies and even those who generally did liked it acknowledged there’s some very big demographic targeting flaws that would keep many fans from the show

    According to whom?

    See my last two links. Also me and tons of others. It’s a very common theme that Prodigy is for kids and that turned of many of the traditional adult fans myself included. Animation isn’t the traditional style for star trek, but it can work so long as it’s appealing to adults/all ages instead of being specifically targeted towards kids. Why Lower Decks has been so successful when TAS and Prodigy were not.

    Animation costs significantly less per episode than a high concept live action science fiction series like Disco or PIC.

    I wasn’t aware you were a producer well versed in the various pros and cons of live action vs animation. You should know then that is not necessary the case as animation takes way longer and can quickly balloon in cost not to mention the incredibly talentent Kate Mulgrew ain’t cheap. Plain and simple, we don’t know the exact production cost but it very easily.

    PRO was fairly well received, including being in the Top 10 of new shows when its second group of episodes began airing. This despite the fact that its scattershot release schedule likely meant it had difficulty catching on with the intended demographic.

    Keyword second group of airing. Yes it didn’t have the greatest release schedule, but even if it was more of traditional release it wouldn’t have mattered. Kids these days aren’t exactly know for their adhesion to traditional television release cycles. It really shouldn’t matter when something is airing. Plenty of shows manage the 1/2 season release cycle and still find their audience. To be fair most of those shows don’t have as abysmal of a first half of a first season as Prodigy did. You even acknowledge right here that it has its own intended demographic different from the traditional trekkie.

    Just a personal tangent: I get the character development thy were trying to go with by making the first half of the season the way they did, however that storytelling and exposition could have easily been dolled out in in other ways with these kids starting already in starfleet. Or having a starfleet character get trapped in the camp from the beginning with them. It’s not obvious AT ALL from the first half of that season that this is a Star Trek show.

    You do realize the same thing applies to yourself and your appreciation of PRO, right?

    Absolutely. I never said I hated the show or thought people couldn’t like it ahem. If you read my first comment you would have noticed that while i wasn’t the biggest fan of the first season, i was looking forward to the second and only with the news of the cancellation am i preliminary hopeful this means that Paramount is looking to bring in stronger hitting shows and getting rid of the ones that don’t fit the franchise. I’m not surprised a show aimed at kids with insufferable characters with no initial affiliation to starfleet is a prime target for cancellation, especially with the ongoing writers strike. Not sure if you’re old enough to remember the last strike, but lots of great shows ended up getting cancelled just as collateral damage.

    Was i cheering for it’s cancellation, no. Was i surprised by it, also no. Am I excited for the future of the franchise? You bet.

    Thanks for coming to my Ted talk




  • This is not how things get made. If Trek shows are not finding the audience they need to justify how costly they are to make, than they’re simply going to stop producing new Trek shows until some years down the road when a new producer with enough clout wants to revive a familiar property.

    You do realize that different shows in the franchise are currently trying to fill different niches and appeal to different audiences, right? Prodigy is far from appealing to the traditional trekkie. It’s primarily targeted to young adults and children via Nickelodeon branding. The characters were largely insufferable at the beginning. Yes to show character growth, but this likely also turned people off

    Just because one niche show in the franchise wasn’t super successful or was too expensive to make does not mean the current generation of development is doomed.

    This writers strike has caused production calculus to change. That’s likely what started talks at Paramount leading to the current decision amplified by their current financial status.

    And just because you didn’t like the ending PIC doesn’t meant it wasn’t immensely enjoyed by others. I would love to see the next next generation on the enterprise G with all the cheese it might entail. I absolutely would eat that series up! Don’t worry, I don’t need you to be convinced for me to enjoy it 😊