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      Nearly every web app that uses an input calculates and displays some result based on those inputs. It’s clearly useful.

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          Yes exactly. Which is reason enough to use it, unless you purposefully want worse accessibility.

          You could make the same argument about p, h1 - h6, label, etc.

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            All those other elements give some benefit apart from accessibility which is why they are universally used and output isn’t.

            Expecting all devs to test their sites with screen readers is unrealistic.

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              Expecting all devs to test their sites with screen readers is unrealistic.

              I disagree with this but its not what we’re talking about. You said output is useless and I’m saying its obviously not. There’s zero cost to using it instead of a div so the only reason not to use it is to purposefully screw users who need accessibility features.

              All those other elements give some benefit apart from accessibility

              Maybe for label but p and h1 - h6 only differ from div in styles, which is another argument in my favor. If you’re willing to swap a div for one of those for visual users, swapping a div for output should be just as easy of a change.

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                You said output is useless

                No I said it’s not very useful.

                There’s zero cost to using it instead of a div so the only reason not to use it is to purposefully screw users who need accessibility features.

                No, the main reason is because people don’t know about it, because it’s an extra thing to remember for little benefit. Same reason other semantic-only tags like article get very little use.

                only differ from div in styles

                Err yeah the “only” do a really useful thing that lots of people want.

                If output came with some nice styling and maybe animations… maybe a built in copy-to-clipboard option… then people would have used it.

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    I’ve been writing HTML since like '98 and am just learning about this tag now.

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      What do you mean by “instead of watching”? OP links to a text article.

      I still prefer your MDN link though. Concise, and a more readable layout. Dunno why OP felt the need to increase the font size that much into a wide layout.