Honestly the let’s plays will be epic tho. Pure chaos.

Our* toothbrush, comrade.

I didn’t claim anything tho…?

Lol like that makes any difference?

Sorry I would rather not :/

For my city, just for a very specific example, it takes less than one afternoon and 80 bucks total (no fees and almost no capital fund requirements) to open a corporation. It takes weeks if not months to open a coop and it costs 2500 bucks PER member.

I don’t know the specifics of all cities and states everywhere in the world. But the system is built to benefit private corporations much more, as it’s a capitalist system where owning capital equals power, and workers are a commodity.

Like the literal law. In most places it’s a much more involved and expensive process to even open a coop compared to a traditional private company. It takes more paperwork, more fees, more capital funds etc. Also, getting investors in (when they can’t own the coop, as they are not workers) or even loans from private or state banks/institutions is much harder. There are several programs incentivising people to open private companies, giving them tax credits, making the application and approval process easier, giving access to funds and education etc. How many there are for coops? In most places around the world there are 0. In what ways does it appear the opposite to you…? Like this all seems very self-evident to me.

The system literally disincentives and makes coops less competitive.

Opening a coop is harder, more expensive, have less subsidies or tax benefits, less opportunities for investments/loans etc.

And all of this makes running coops more expensive, thus less competitive, thus the ones that do manage to open either can’t grow or die.

That’s not so true nowadays. Skilled factory workers already make a good salary in China nowadays. Like better than any other “global south” country at least. And by cost of living, better than the US probably tbh.

Americans downvoting you, mad they are the bad guys.

What is your definition of working? I’d say communist revolutions have indeed worked. I base that on data, facts and the material conditions of places that had a revolution compared to countries in similar economic and geopolitical situations.

Cuba is doing much better than most Latin American countries. In most areas it’s doing MUCH better.

China is doing infinitely better than any other comparable country, like India. It’s not even a comparison.

The USSR was also doing much better than any country in a comparable situation when it did exist.

How did these revolutions “not work”?

Yeah sure… it worked great for Chile. Unless there is a wave of democratic socialism all over the western world, specially the US, all at the same time, it’ll just be squashed by fascism backed by the US and friends.

The only real solution that has worked before is a communist revolution. Like it or not.

The state is a tool, and currently in most of the world it’s a tool of the 1%… people really forget about the French, American, Dutch etc. revolutions? Where the capitalist class violently overtook the state from the aristocracy and rebuilt it to serve them?

I buy what I believe will be best for me. I don’t feel bad to buy from x company instead of y. I just buy it and don’t give a fuck.

I am VERY aware that my individual consumption actions will have 0 impact on anything.

I don’t think you understood me. What I mean is “which product do I consume under capitalism” is a useless question. No consumption under capitalism will lead to a better world. Buying from fairphone or apple will make 0 difference to what actually matters.

Revolution is not a state of consumption. And surviving under capitalism won’t make revolution less likely either. So it’s a false dichotomy. Buying apple instead of fairphone won’t make a revolution less likely.

Cause capitalism was born with the Big Bang and will die with the heat death of the universe right buddy? Lmao.

You are very naive if you think fairphone is trying to “do good”. They are, like every single corporation under capitalism, trying to make a profit. They found a niche and are carving their market share within it. If they could, they would become Apple. If you don’t think so, again, you’re being naive.

It doesn’t matter if they are “bad” or not bro. The issue is the system. And it’s not a matter of morality. I don’t give a fuck if it’s “evil” or “good”. Even in a perfect capitalist world where all companies were “fair”something, we would still be destroying the planet with climate change and exploiting the labour of people in the third-world.

And who cares about “perfect”? I only care about meaningful change that helps not destroy the planet. Buying a fairphone is not it.

The only thing that will help is a fucking revolution. So the BEST thing any of us can do is to radicalise those around us and organize.

There are no “good” brands under capitalism. The issue is not of the moral failing of individual companies. We can’t solve the issues of capitalism by “consuming” right.

You think fairphone have no slave-labour rare-earth metals in them?

It really doesn’t matter… there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Just use what’s more practical or better in any way for you.