lime!

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asking questions like this is how i found out that one of the allowed characters in names in my country is ÿ, which is fine in Latin-1 but in 7-bit ASCII is DEL.

as i understand it, the money goes to the foundation, and it’s the corporation that develops the browser. so it’s probably not strictly forbidden, but it does imply that the money is not for browser development.

good point, ruby is a good comparison. although, ruby is very different under the hood. it’s magically dynamic in a completely different way, and it also never really got the penetration on the system level that python did.

none of this is to take away from the fact that python packaging is bad. i know how to work it because i’ve been programming in python for 14 years, but trying to teach people makes the problem obvious. and yet.

mozilla takes donations, but they don’t fund Firefox development with that money. that’s usually what you’re home against it.

i’ve seen something like this before, where the kernel holds the file handle open for the process so that it thinks the file is still there. i think it’s related to how the program closes the file but i don’t remember the details. restarting qbittorent will most likely fix it.

i mean, that is the difference between interpreted and compiled.

if the container doesn’t work though, that means it is broken and should be fixed. the point of them is literally to be plug-n-play. that would be like distributing a go binary with a segfault in main.

that’s posturing if anything. if you’re an experienced developer it takes fully 10 minutes with either system. and if you’re not interested in modifying it, just use a container image.

the only case where i would agree with you is when i have to modify LD_LIBRARY_PATH to get things to run…

such a strange interpretation. i’ve been working in go for over 10 years now, and i love it. but the notion that you can “just find the same program but built in a different language” doesn’t make sense at all.

like, if you’re annoyed with pandoc being written in haskell and clogging up your system dependencies, you can’t just “find another pandoc”. there’s nothing like it. same thing with curl, or xonsh, or thingsboard.

such a weird take.

it’s not though. op has issues installing programs built in python. suggesting they rebuild those programs in go is 100% an apples to meatballs comparison, and way off topic.

this is not about offense! nobody is offended. but if you ask me for help with an apple pie and i tell you to make meatballs… it’s a confusing lack of relevance.

everyone focuses on the tooling, not many are focusing on the reason: python is extremely dynamic. like, magic dynamic you can modify a module halfway through an import, you can replace class attributes and automatically propagate to instances, you can decompile the bytecode while it’s running.

combine this with the fact that it’s installed by default and used basically everywhere and you get an environment that needs to be carefully managed for the sake of the system.

js has this packaging system down pat, but it has the advantage that it got mainstream in a sandboxed isolated environment before it started leaking out into the system. python was in there from the beginning, and every change breaks someone’s workflow.

the closest language to look at for packaging is probably lua, which has similar issues. however since lua is usually not a standalone application platform it’s not a big deal there.

it’s also not at all relevant. go is great, but this is about python.

jellyfin is a streaming server. get yourself a domain name and you can connect your apps to it from anywhere.

it’s less about the details and more about the entirety of the experience for me.

i harp on it a lot, but Outer Wilds helps me a lot. It teaches the value of exploration, curiosity, friendship, compassion, and patience. it’s a deeply melancholic piece, which can be frustrating and obtuse at times, but just remembering it makes me happy. the soundtrack brings all the memories back every time.

that’s what the robot arm with the suction cup on it is for

…like the js infra stuff isn’t it’s own special nightmare?

excel has python support now! you may still get away with it