

My favorite part of the game by far - with the least favorite part being my friends demanding silly things like “making pretty railway pillars” and “bringing everything to a single place and processing everything locally”…


My favorite part of the game by far - with the least favorite part being my friends demanding silly things like “making pretty railway pillars” and “bringing everything to a single place and processing everything locally”…


Satisfactory has quite the satisfactory railway mechanics: in addition to what you say you want with them, you also have to place proper semaphores in order not to have them crashing each other.
Efficient networks require roundabouts and double one-way tracks, but sometimes it’s much more convenient to either have maze-like single one-way tracks (makes paths longer) or two-way tracks (blocks traffic, and gets worse the longer it is).
… there is no “intellgence” with vehicle paths, though: trucks and trains always pick the shortest path, and if they’ve gotta wait, they’re gonna wait (unless you screw up the semaphores, in which case kaboom).


… y’all mean it’s going to become even more enshittified?
One even recommended I take a prompt engineering boot camp

Answer: Why don’t you try searching for the question first?
Me (confused face): How tf do you think I found this page?

That’s just the average stackoverflow comment
Your description of the problem has words I’ve heard before, like “a” and “even”; marked as duplicate.


I use Zsh too, though at this point is becoming detrimental to my (already limited) Bash skills because of features like the ${^array}{1,2,3} syntax which I use in some scripts of mine, which in turn I wouldn’t dare try to translate to Bash.


If the path to the dir is longer than $HOME, say, $HOME/Tools/modding/hd2-audio-modder/wwise/v123456789_idr_but_its_a_long_one/random file name with spaces, it makes more sense.
I’ll try using the braces syntax, if it does prevent word splitting I wasn’t aware of it, though it’s still slightly inconvenient (3 key inputs for each brace on my kb) and I’d probably still use quotes instead if I had to use Bash and had the file path in a variable for some reason.
… though at this point I’m probably overthinking it, atm I don’t recall better examples of my distaste for Bash expansion shenanigans.
Did some testing, here’s what I found.
Beware, it devolves into a rant against Bash and has little to do with the original topic - I just needed to scream into the void a little.
# Zsh
function argn { echo $#; }
var='spaced string'
argn $var
# Prints 1: makes sense, no word splitting here
var=(array 'of strings')
argn $var
# Prints 2: makes sense, I'm using a 2-wide array where I would
# want 2 arguments (the second one happens to have
# a whitespace in it)
# Bash
function argn { echo $#; }
var='spaced string'
argn $var
# Prints 2: non-array variable gets split in 2 with this simple reference;
# I hate it, but hey, it is what it is
argn ${var}
# Prints 2: no, braces do not prevent word splitting as I think you suggested
var=(array 'of strings')
argn $var
# Prints 1: ... what?
echo $var
# Prints array: ... what?!?
# It implicitly takes the first element?
# At least it doesn't word-split said first element, right?
var=('array of' strings)
argn $var
# Prints 2:

Upon further investigation:
# Bash
mkdir /tmp/bashtest ; cd /tmp/bashtest
touch 'file 1'
touch 'file 2'
stat file*
# Prints the expected output of 'stat' called on both files;
# no quotes or anything, globbing just expands into
# 2 arguments without *word* splitting
files=('file 1' 'file 2')
stat $files
# stat: cannot statx 'file'
# stat: cannot statx '1'
# WHY? WHY DOES GLOBBING ACT SENSIBLY WHEN ARRAYS DO NOT?
I get that the Bash equivalent to Zsh’s $array is ${array[@]}, but making $array behave like it does in Bash has no advantage whatsoever.
… IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IF THAT WERE TRUE! YOU ALSO HAVE TO QUOTE "${array[@]}" BECAUSE WE LOVE QUOTES HERE AT BASH HQ!
# ... continued from before
stat "prefix ${files[@]}"
# stat: cannot statx 'prefix file 1'
# (regular 'stat' output for 'file 2')
While this behavior doesn’t make much sense to me, it also doesn’t make sense for me to write that “prefix” within the quotes in the first place, right?
YES. BECAUSE SPLITTING IS NOT WHAT YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU PUT STUFF IN QUOTES.
Sorry, I’ll stop.


Expansion matters because using parameters without quotes automatically splits words, and IIRC a quoted array parameter can still be split into its members — as opposed to Zsh, where word splitting doesn’t happen unprompted and quoted array parameters are flattened into a single string.
Generally if I want to run $HOME/random executable with spaces.exe through Wine in a terminal I copy the path in Dolphin (CTRL+SHIFT+C, or CTRL+ALT+C idr) and paste it, within quotes if needed (the four extra key inputs are the annoying part).
I find that much faster than manually typing find "$HOME" -name "random executable with spaces.exe" -type x -exec wine "{}" \;, or opening an editor to insert backslashes.


They’re annoying to deal with when interactively using command-line shells, especially so when pasting unquoted and unescaped file paths, doubly especially so with Bash where parameter expansion makes no goddamn sense if you know at least one other programming language
Your stepbrother’s judgement depends on which Halo he plays, he still has a chance
This AI generated meeting could have been an AI generated email


Understandable complaint, if it’s anything like X3 or Avorion


Makes more sense ig


I thought so too, but IME it’s fine


They cared to optimize for hard disks? Odd but respectable


Thanks for the link, it addresses both of the doubts I’ve expressed in the post; perhaps at some point I’ll play a game with DS and see how well it carries over to Linux despite the lack of a similar API, I’ll probably stick to the small RAID0 fs I already have and use it for X4 or something.


I haven’t played Starfield so I can’t say for sure, but I think people hate that the world is divided into instances rather than being seamless and associate loading screens with that critique… probably.
Nice to see that they’re efficient loading screens, though!
still 3x slower and annoying when dealing with slopes (= all the time) :c