Like what for example?

Massive boner* FTFY

It’ll probably take time though until it’s available

Like someone else said here - I do what I can and go on with my day. Wouldn’t assume soneone who cares/proactive about privacy is “overthinking”.

As with everything in life, there’s a tradeoff for everything. I just recently downloaded LineageOS MicroG fork because ride share apps simply won’t launch without Google play services.

https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms-support-from-signal-android-very-soon/47954/57

Apparently there’s no RCS API so any 3rd party app will disappear at some point (if RCS becomes the popular protocol)

That’s a good read, thanks!

https://www.beeper.com/privacy

We use your information only as you’ve permitted and in service of bettering your user experience.

Little worried about the second part but I like that’s it’s short

I see the confusion, what I meant to say their keyboard is spying on them which includes their part of my conversation with them. Having an app broadcast the metadata of the conversations (whatsapp) + a keyboard spying on them = me getting profiled, somewhat.

Although Meta tries to go Apple’s way and not share data (likewise for Google, iirc)

Will do, thanks!

Wdym? I was under the impression that the Google native/default keyboard on Android feeds some stuff to their ad-related dataset

Don’t trust them either but that’s sometimes a good sign. It’s been used for illegal activities using a 3rd party client for a while in one country that I know of, which oddly enough makes me a little more comfortable. Or at least that country just couldn’t get access to the data

IMO I’d rather have that and have them clearly say they’re not using it for anything than potentially be profiled on WhatsApp where my friends keyboards are spying on their end in terms of content, i.e. be plugged into a social network with half the conversation exposed that way.

I say sane in comparison to that.

Granted these are my own concerns

I heard from their forums it’s something they’re working on, so hopefully this year

Answer: Signal

I wish people would use Signal, but Telegram is the closest thing to a sane privacy policy I’ve got. There are a few that luckily agreed to use Signal.

Waiting on interoperability, see how that’s implemented in Signal+WhatsApp (hopefully with Telegram to so I can ditch that).

What other info can help distinguish between regular sims and esims in terms of privacy?

Or alternatively what’s missing from thecomments?

Asking, not trying to challenge you, I’m honestly trying to learn

I see a pattern of a lack of transparency here indeed, thanks.

I’m hoping for some major event to push people to Signal and/or Matrix. Struggling to see how else might a migration trend happen.

True. There’s some trust involved there still, but way less trust needed than with a company that simply doesn’t publish its server code.

I was afraid of that outcome and went for the auto-delete option, some groups have just a few days in terms of retention.

I’m sorry you had to go through this though.

Would you rather lose a contact if they insist on a communication channel that’s leaking metadata but the content is e2ee (WhatsApp for example)? (Or perhaps in your view keeping the content secure is more important than anything?)

Asking out of curiosity, I’m aware that every person has their own threat model

Thanks everyone on sharing your thoughts ln this! This has been really helpful!

I see some saying their policy says one thing about cooperation with law enforcement but they seem to have been doing just the opposite, reducing the trust overall in the rest of their promises (e.g. their data collection).

Some compared to the closer to ideal apps such as Signal or Matrix in terms of privacy.

I’m curious to also hear what do you do to compromise to keep your social connections? The practical side of navigating the current state of the Internet and people’s social life.

It’s been an uphill battle with asking folks to use Signal, and Telegram seem to be better than giving out info to Meta.