You’re ascribing a lot of emotional baggage to what I typed on my phone while pedaling a stationary bike that doesn’t exist.

I’m not here to argue the finer points of plot holes in these productions that have been under spotlights for years and detailed far better by people with enough time to make hundreds of videos on the subjects like Robert Meyer Burnett, Nitpicking Nerd, and Red Letter Media.

If you enjoy these shows, fantastic, more power to you. Just don’t tell me they’re amazingly well-made and just as good as previous incarnations of Star Trek when they can and have been analyzed ad nauseam, displaying exactly how they aren’t.

I’m not expecting everyone agree whether or telling anyone whether or not they should or shouldn’t like it, but there are many more demonstrable issues with writing and plotting, let alone canon, that exist in excess throughout Discovery, Picard, and SNW. These are objective issues that actual writers have taken issue with, and they’re consistent issues with the executive producers involved.

Absolutely TNG or DS9 aren’t some pantheon of perfection, but from an overall standpoint of consistency, narrative continuity, and proper handling of characters and their development? They’re lightyears beyond the juvenile handling of characters and plots in the post 09 FMV shows. It’s just fact.

Fervently disagree, it has squandered all it could have been and the writing is still absolutely awful. Granted, it’s a notch above Discovery and Picard.

“No bloody A, B, C, orrrrrr D.”

They’re not “too political” or “woke,” they’re written by terrible committees and the executive producers / show runners are hacks.

Lower Decks (and Prodigy, I’m told) excluded.

Sounds like a plan

I’m going to call him Markardies now.

That’s a stupid question!

*Struts away like the important Admiral I totally am for really real

Yeah, in-universe, Winn was a true patriot in the Bajoran resistance against the Cardassians.

She was absolutely an insufferable c-word and ultimately undone by her rampant ambition and desire for recognition; she was a terrible, terrIble person, but was not responsible for the deaths of millions (granted, she ultimately would have been, at least in part, if not for Sisko).

Inaros comes off much more like a mustache twirler. He’s utterly uncaring about life in general. Maybe Winn could have reached his level of despicable and worthiness for removal from the land of living, but by both of their ends, Inaros wins the universal shitbag award by far.

All that said, while I’d more readily rid the universe of Inaros, it would feel like removing a tumor. I’d have a celebratory pile of hasperat and spring wine over Winn’s departure.

and grits straight off Natalie Portman.

Go on…

Filthy lies! Gilora Rejal is an angel!

And your drink absolutely wasn’t poisoned by plain, simple, Garak the tailor for your slander (or libel, whatever) of Tora Ziyal.

Jamaharon still works even if it’s in a holosuite!

I couldn’t figure out why, but I always thought the Cardassian women were extremely pretty. Maybe due to forcing more facial symmetry from the makeup/prosthetics or something.

Regardless, they’re much better looking than those other people… with makeup and prosthetics…

D’oh.

Captain Solok: Not even humans could conceive of such an incomprehensible game. We will not be tricked by your attempt at “humor.”

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DS9 doesn’t either.

TNG on the other hand… dodeeloodoodoo BAAAA-BAHBAHBAHHHHHH-BAHBAHBAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

“UHWHAHOLYFUCKSHIELDSUPEVASIVEMANEUVERPATTERNGAMMA… oh”

We’re not going to include JJ’s most ‘successful’ protégée, are we? *cough

I’m not good with classic battlecruisers, but I’m guessing it’s a D70 or so?

They’re going to take over by shoving psychedelics down our throats so we’ll “think” like them.

Borgcelium?