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Cake day: June 10th, 2023

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  • As an artist you draw with an understanding of the human body, though. An understanding current models don’t have because they aren’t actually intelligent.

    Maybe when a human is an absolute beginner in drawing they will think about the different lines and replicate even how other people draw stuff that then looks like a hand.

    But eventually they will realise (hopefully, otherwise they may get frustrated and stop drawing) that you need to understand the hand to draw one. It’s mass, it’s concept or the idea of what a hand is.

    This may sound very abstract and strange but creative expression is more complex than replicating what we have seen a million times. It’s a complex function unique to the human brain, an organ we don’t even scientifically understand yet.



  • I think the difference in artistic expression between modern humans and humans in the past comes down to the material available (like the actual material to draw with).

    Humans can draw without seeing any image ever. Blind people can create art and draw things because we have a different understanding of the world around us than AI has. No human artist needs to look at a thousand or even at 1 picture of a banana to draw one.

    The way AI sees and “understands” the world and how it generates an image is fundamentally different from how the human brain conveys the object banana into an image of a banana.




  • If you use that approach there is no way left to claim that current AI models aren’t a huge copyright infringement on the data they were trained on. Because the biggest argument for why AI is supposedly not copyright infringing it’s training data, is because it’s generated images aren’t direct copies of the works if was trained upon.

    But if you start arguing the idea behind a image or the vision is somehow copyrightable than all AI models are illegal. Since they definitely work by using the ideas and visions of artists.



  • As an artist you do not look at how 300 other artists have drawn a banana, you look at a banana and try to understand how you can use different techniques to capture the form, texture, etc. of a banana.

    An AI calculates from hundreds of images the probability of lines and colours being arranged in a certain way and still being interpreted as a banana. It never sees a banana or understands what it is.

    Tell me, where do you see a similarity in these two processes.


  • I don’t see why it is complicated. It should not be copyrightable because ideas aren’t copyrightable.

    Otherwise you definitely have to start fresh with AI and build new ones which somehow aren’t trained on the pictures produced by artists.

    Because if you copyright the idea behind an image, than definitely all AI produced images are infringing on the copyright of the art they used for training.