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  • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eetoPrivacy Guides@lemmy.oneleaving google
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    1 year ago

    “we do not process email content to serve ads” looks very specific. We don’t process emails to serve you ads. It doesn’t say they don’t process ads to understand better what is relevent to you. It is also a very specific word, serve. Serving means displaying, but it doesn’t necessarily mean profiling or targetting.

    Ads are shown based on: “ads that were selected to be the most useful and relevant for you”. So, they’re saying they don’t directly do that, but it doesn’t cover indirect processing that would feed into this.

    These people are very clever, and hire very clever lawyers that could easily demonstrate this in a court, so they could use that information and still meet the requirements of the policy.

    Considering the astounding level of information gained from Android that feeds into their tech, it would be quite naive to believe they’ve ring fenced email as something they don’t touch. Google still serve very relevant content to people that don’t use search and don’t stay logged into email. I cannot imagine it’s a fluke. Email is a very expensive game to be in when you’re insinuating that all they want is to be an identity provider to assist in tracking web interactions.




  • It’s a different tool. Krita is for painting. GIMP is for image manipulation.

    I’m assuming you’re not a professional programmer though, as professional programmer salaries are much higher. If Krita does more, it’s though sacrificing time, giving it away free. Not everyone is in a position to do that. You either pay for good developers, or hope for the sacrifice.

    Maybe I’ll try your approach and just bash projects, I’m sure that’s productive and helps open source improve. Feels a wee bit negative though…


  • “I don’t like the insinuation that anyone who claims to have problems with Firefox must be bots.”

    I did not say this, multiple people have interpreted it this way. It’s a little defensive. I said there is a targetted campaign against it where every time it is brought up it is trashed. You may be be a genuine person who is also trashing it, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t also a targetted campaign at play. I just find it hard to believe that some folk hate FOSS projects so much they have to smash it every time it’s brought up. Sounds exhausting.

    There is a difference between “it’s great software, but i’ve notice a few issues” and “this project is trash”. The second is posted purely with the intent of trying to dissuade people from using it, and all they do is keep people using Chrome, which I think we can all agree has bigger issues.



  • “Still doing correctly”? They are very generous with their space allowance and you gotta wonder why. I haven’t read the privacy policy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if every email you receive, everything you buy, every account you own is feeding into advertising profiles about you as a user.


  • Thanks for the links. It looks like they engaged, but it is a little waffley, and it doesn’t exactly explain why they purchased them and where they see the ROI. If they are investing capital, they would need a return to make it profitable. It didn’t touch of whether they were after ad space without data (non targetted which isn’t worth a lot less, but may guarantee real estate), or a paid for service where Startpage will generate it’s own profits from services. Without further clarification, it doesn’t sit comfortably.