I honestly don’t know if this is allowed here but I thought this is malicious compliance at its finest.
If you don’t want to drive traffic there I’ll repost what the mods posted below:
POLL: Decide on the future of /r/Pics!
Hello, /r/Pics subscribers!
Boy, what a whacky time we’ve all had lately, huh? Reddit decided to kill off third-party applications, a protest got planned (and possibly exploited by bad actors), the site showed up in the news, various communities started opening back up, others decided to stay inaccessible, and then the CEO of Reddit implied that a bunch of moderators would be removed from their positions!
Crazy, right?
Anyway, we – the so-called “landed gentry” – definitely want to comply with the wishes of the “royal court,” and they’ve told us that we need to run the subreddit in the way that its members want. To that end, we figured that the only reasonable thing to do was directly ask how you’d like things to progress from here.
Which of the following should we do?
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Return to normal operations
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Only allow images of John Oliver looking sexy To be clear, if people choose the second option, screen-grabs from videos will be allowed (provided that there aren’t any visible logos, inserted graphics, or other digital elements present). You could – if you wanted to – look through episodes of Last Week Tonight on YouTube, find moments featuring John Oliver at his sexiest, then post images of those moments here.
It’s entirely up to you! Whatever the /r/Pics community decides is best, we’ll respect!
Vote, friends! Vote now!
(You can vote by upvoting either of the comments in the thread below.)
Voting has now closed.
Our final tally is as follows:
Return to normal operations: -2,329 votes
Only allow images of John Oliver looking sexy: 37,331 votes
It would seem that the community has spoken!
Henceforth, /r/Pics will only allow images of John Oliver looking sexy.
(Said images must adhere to all of the community’s other rules, including those mandated by Reddit.)
Happy posting!
Definitely allowed. For now, anything that fits in the spirit of malicious compliance is fair game, it doesn’t have to be text only too.
Is this real?! What episode is it from!
yes, it’s real. it’s from the episode on coal from june 2017: https://youtu.be/aw6RsUhw1Q8?t=1443
Ah, probably my favourite episode! I’ve never been a big fan of john oliver purely because I find him aggressively unfunny, but showing everyone the ridiculous cease and desist letter with “Let us neither cease, nor desist” is amazing.
It’s edited
no, it’s actually not edited. that exact frame appears at 23:03 in the episode on coal from june 2017: https://youtu.be/aw6RsUhw1Q8?t=1443
“Bob” was replaced with “Spez”
Yes it was edited. But the base image is real. It also resulted in a lawsuit.
Incredible move. But I doubt it’ll last. Reddit is going to became 9gag and iFunny very soon. Rest in peace old reddit. It was fun while it lasted.
The point is to hit reddit where it hurts - ad revenue. There will be a slight spike in interests as people laugh, then the lack of original content will cause people to be bored. New subreddits will have to be created and built from the ground up. Moderating a subreddit with 40m subscribers is hard.
Spez needs to realize that going to war with the users is a dumb move.
He will not realize that, because he wants money and he’ll get it. On the one hand, Reddit was fun. On the other hand, it’s archaic for the reasons we’re experiencing right now. Progress.
Spez is thick as fuck but reddit will likely IPO and be just fine, this was a battle that didn’t need to be fought.
Spez is a bad leader and his goals lie contrary to reddit’s mission statement.
I left last time, I think it was the Victoria thing, and I joined Voat and that quickly went to shit. Reddit will get what they want from this which is more mainstream use.
I would argue that this whole thing will delay or devalue the IPO. Institual investors will look at this rather public fight and question his leadership. And the whole attempt at damage control makes him look bad. The only investors that will look past this fiasco are those who are doing the long play, and even then, they likely won’t want Spez involved.
From a risk perspective, Reddit has just highlighted it’s biggest risk: the volunteer moderators. The only way Spez will be able to fix that is to replace moderators with AI or paid moderation teams. At an estimated value of $3.4M, and a company that is not profitable, that increases the risk in terms of the business model.
In general, social media is inherently flawed for profits. The path to monetization is ads and data, and the fact that Spez is now squeezing the users make me think that the value of the data and the ads is not producing the returns to compensate for dumb ideas like the NFT project.
Glorious :) I hope John Oliver picks this up in his show…
Plot twist: John Oliver is secretly a mod of r/pics.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he was. That’s totally in character for him :)
the writers are still on strike. don’t know where they are in the negotiation process.
“John Oliver Supports the Reddit Protests’ Use of his Image” - https://www.vulture.com/2023/06/reddit-protests-john-oliver-pics.html
r/debatereligion requires all posts to be in Latin, same spirit.
Update on the vote results, for people who don’t want to go there:
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Pro John Oliver: 61.7k
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Return to normal: -13.7k.
The redditors have spoken. Also r/gifs do this as well.
I like the malicious compliance but I find that to be a bad way to do a poll. Better would have been one comment with the text “Upvote if you want John Oliver pics, downvote if you want it to go back to normal”.
The way they did it if one group only upvote their alternative and the other also downvotes the opponent then the result isn’t representative. Or at least could be claimed not to be.
It would exacerbate the swing but wouldn’t change the result
And I don’t think maliciously compliant mod is interested in statistical representation.
Let’s assume that everyone who upvoted their option also downvoted the alternative.
The group A, has |A| number of individuals. Group B has |B| number.
Option A: |A| - |B| Option B: |B| - |A| Option A = |A| - |B| = -(-(|A| - |B|)) = -(|B| - |A|) = -Option B
The results would be opposites of each other and would highlight the opinion of the majority anyway.
r/theydidthema-- oh.
Right.
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Absolutely crushing the direction they chose.
That’s a classic reddit moment. There’s such a good community on that website, it’s tragic that reddit wants to use that against itself.
These kind of protest won’t reduce the traffic on the platform though. They might even gain traction and increase it. If it’s not linked to reduced ad revenue, I’m afraid it’s counter-productive.
hahaha that’s brilliant
Glad you posted this - its the epitome of malicious compliance! And a fantastic form of protest too. With Reddit admins threatening to demote mods unless they re-open subreddits, this move takes away that ammo. Additionally, after the initial boost in activity due to novelty, the sub will get stale quickly and users will think of migrating to other platforms like lemmy or kbin. I’m all for it!
Edit: This is what I’m talking about. Here is one of those Reddit refugees now!
https://lemmy.world/comment/273363
Welcome, @[email protected]!
I don’t think this is a good idea. The point of the blackout is to hit Reddit where it hurts, by driving traffic down. This prank (partially) reverses the work of the blackout, by getting people back to the pics subreddit to post and see (John Oliver) pics. It turns the blackout into a joke. And I think is a step towards the community just moving on from the blackout without it actually having the long term effects that were intended.
I’m all for malicious compliance, but I think this is the wrong flavor of it.
Well, it’ll put Reddit in an odd place. Spez in particular has cited the Moderator Code as a justification to remove mods and instate his own.
THAT would be worse, since then instead of any blackout at all it’s business as usual (while being slowly crippled from bad moderation and decaying user behaviours).
The John Oliver thing is an alternative to THAT. They are technically doing what the users want, which was Reddit’s whole ammunition against them. Closing a sub of millions of people could be said as harming the site significantly enough that reddit steps in. Opening it and maliciously complying with the rules IS what the users want, so Spez will be hard pressed the wrest control of the sub while simultaneously saying he supports the protests in line with the Code.
Nah I disagree. Turning things less serious is not necessarily a bad thing. People will visit to check it out but long term it will get stale and die off.
A blackout prevents action. It prevents the usefulness.
A satiric malicious compliance focus does not categorically prevent activity, but does prevent general activity. It prevents the usefulness and value of the subreddit too.
When you are at risk of losing the blackout by losing control of the subreddit. it’s the only thing you can do. It’s the next best and next most effective thing.
This is brilliant! I had just took a look at /r/pics without logging in and can see its just now filled with John Oliver pics
I haven’t laughed this hard in so long. The malicious compliance is epic. John Oliver can’t buy PR like this, and he has got to be one of the few people that can appreciate being the face of something like this.
Is Reddit having issues again right now? I can’t load the site properly in the last 5 mins
Spez really should have read r/maliciouscompliance a bit before he bit off more than he could chew
Spez is peak r/choosingbeggars wanting free work to be done but oh, not with your own tools that actually work, no you need the ones that are inside his Basement for the last 10 years and barely work at all.
That’s how billionaires make their money isn’t it? Get everyone to pay them while they themselves pay others as little as possible.
Spez has the brain of a goldfish.